Been using UNIX since the late 80s; Linux since the mid-90s; virtualization since the early 2000s and spent the past few years working in the cloud space.
Location
Alexandria, VA, USA
Education
B.S. Psychology from Pennsylvania State University
I'd considered switching back to Firefox, but, I've found that it really, really, REALLY doesn't like me leaving gMail tabs open. Unfortunately, working across multiple customers – who each insist I constrain my emails with them to their gSuite-based mail-domain – means that I just can't use Firefox with them. After a couple hours of 2-3 gMail tabs left open, I find that my browser has slowed to a crawl and that, when I check the per-tab memory-usage, the gMail tabs are each sucking down anywhere from 1.5-4GiB of RAM. While my laptop has plenty of RAM left over – even with a few VMs also running – Firefox doesn't seem to manage those leaky gobs of memory real well.
Not Firefox-related, just "generic browser pain": more fun is, I also have several (infrequent) customers that use O365 for their mail, chat and and video-conferencing. Microsoft hasn't seemed to figure out how to let you login to multiple O365 domains within the same browser/session. Worse, once you're logged into one, it's a right pain-in-the-dick to fully log out so that you can login to another. Result: I have to maintain five browser-profiles to make the O365 session/login nonsense not bite me in the ass.
Oh... And one Customer has somehow managed to make it so that I have to use Edge for their O365 account because their geo-aware load-balancer doesn't seem to properly redirect things when running in Chrome or Firefox.
Yeah, I've experienced some of these same issues. I'm personally not very sensitive to any of this any more due to having a pretty darn powerful machine.
Been using UNIX since the late 80s; Linux since the mid-90s; virtualization since the early 2000s and spent the past few years working in the cloud space.
Location
Alexandria, VA, USA
Education
B.S. Psychology from Pennsylvania State University
Yeah: I've got 32GiB of RAM, so, the rest of my experience is just fine. It's when I flip over to Firefox, though, that I notice "huh... it's really not wanting to flip tabs right now" (fire up system monitoring tool, look for top process and its sub-processes, kill the pigs, get the "<TAB> has crashed" notifications …which invariably are the gMail tabs).
Been using UNIX since the late 80s; Linux since the mid-90s; virtualization since the early 2000s and spent the past few years working in the cloud space.
Location
Alexandria, VA, USA
Education
B.S. Psychology from Pennsylvania State University
Yeah. Used to use it on Chrome when I was on an issued system with low memory. Unfortunately, its use isn't really suitable for the "need to keep gMail tabs open so that I get notifiers of new activity" use-case.
Response: 418 - I'm a teapot.
A student who loves programming a he is looking at many things at the same time (which probably is a bad idea, but he is happy)
It's entirely possible as I'm quite sure Google products are optimized for Chrome. Which is not fair to the end user but that's it. You could keep gmail tabs open in Chrome and use Firefox for the rest :D
Have you tried using Mozilla's Firefox Multi-Account Containers plugin for your Office 365 problem?
The way I understand it, is that it separates session data so you should be able to be logged into different O365 domains and simply switch between them with tabs
Been using UNIX since the late 80s; Linux since the mid-90s; virtualization since the early 2000s and spent the past few years working in the cloud space.
Location
Alexandria, VA, USA
Education
B.S. Psychology from Pennsylvania State University
It is a core feature. What isn't a core feature is the UI to use it. That's because Mozilla wanted anyone to be able to create a plugin using the underlying code and not force a specific plugin on them. An example of a plugin using the underlying code is Sidebery, a tree style tabs alternative (a much better one if you ask me). You can use multi-account containers without using the multi account containers plugin.
I'd considered switching back to Firefox, but, I've found that it really, really, REALLY doesn't like me leaving gMail tabs open. Unfortunately, working across multiple customers – who each insist I constrain my emails with them to their gSuite-based mail-domain – means that I just can't use Firefox with them. After a couple hours of 2-3 gMail tabs left open, I find that my browser has slowed to a crawl and that, when I check the per-tab memory-usage, the gMail tabs are each sucking down anywhere from 1.5-4GiB of RAM. While my laptop has plenty of RAM left over – even with a few VMs also running – Firefox doesn't seem to manage those leaky gobs of memory real well.
Not Firefox-related, just "generic browser pain": more fun is, I also have several (infrequent) customers that use O365 for their mail, chat and and video-conferencing. Microsoft hasn't seemed to figure out how to let you login to multiple O365 domains within the same browser/session. Worse, once you're logged into one, it's a right pain-in-the-dick to fully log out so that you can login to another. Result: I have to maintain five browser-profiles to make the O365 session/login nonsense not bite me in the ass.
Oh... And one Customer has somehow managed to make it so that I have to use Edge for their O365 account because their geo-aware load-balancer doesn't seem to properly redirect things when running in Chrome or Firefox.
Feels like the early 2000s all over again.
Yeah, I've experienced some of these same issues. I'm personally not very sensitive to any of this any more due to having a pretty darn powerful machine.
Yeah: I've got 32GiB of RAM, so, the rest of my experience is just fine. It's when I flip over to Firefox, though, that I notice "huh... it's really not wanting to flip tabs right now" (fire up system monitoring tool, look for top process and its sub-processes, kill the pigs, get the "<TAB> has crashed" notifications …which invariably are the gMail tabs).
The Great suspender extension really helps lower memory usage. I'm pretty sure there is one for Firefox too.
Yeah. Used to use it on Chrome when I was on an issued system with low memory. Unfortunately, its use isn't really suitable for the "need to keep gMail tabs open so that I get notifiers of new activity" use-case.
Does Gmail have a web notifications feature 🤔? That could be useful
It's entirely possible as I'm quite sure Google products are optimized for Chrome. Which is not fair to the end user but that's it. You could keep gmail tabs open in Chrome and use Firefox for the rest :D
Have you tried using Mozilla's Firefox Multi-Account Containers plugin for your Office 365 problem?
The way I understand it, is that it separates session data so you should be able to be logged into different O365 domains and simply switch between them with tabs
No. Haven't. Didn't even think to look for such a plugin.
Understandable!
I don't know why they haven't made it a core browser feature yet...
I only stumbled on it when searching for a Firefox equivalent to Chrome's new tab groups feature.
It is a core feature. What isn't a core feature is the UI to use it. That's because Mozilla wanted anyone to be able to create a plugin using the underlying code and not force a specific plugin on them. An example of a plugin using the underlying code is Sidebery, a tree style tabs alternative (a much better one if you ask me). You can use multi-account containers without using the multi account containers plugin.
Aaah okay! That makes a lot of sense actually :D