Neither. If you are working at a startup you're making VCs richer. If you are working at a giant corporation you are solidifying the status quo. I think there is something viable somewhere in between the two that is more sustainable and better for the general industry.
In my opinion this is a rather sad way to look at the world. You seem more concerned with minimizing other people's benefit from your work than maximizing the utility.
No, it's very different. He seems very concerned about maximizing the utility and maximizing other people's benefits from the work, except that the people he targets are the 99% and not the 1%.
That's not sad, that's a very positive way to look at the world. Last time I checked the corporate world and the so called startup world as an institution have done nothing to make the planet a better place (ie increase benefits for the whole ecosystem) and everything to increase a very limited number of stakeholder's benefits.
I'm concered about equality which requires being aware of the status quo and how my work benefits those already in power. So instead of twisting my words into sadness consider your own worldview and how it is framed in terms a scalar metric called "utility". The world and the people in it are more than simple numbers and metrics.
That’s the point I keep making with Basecamp too. The enduring achievement was a sustainable, independent business allowing us to do our best work and sell it directly to happy customers. The material gravy beyond that accomplishment is so very far down the list.
23:40 PM - 08 Oct 2018
Please do enlighten me on what you're doing for a living and the great strides you're making for equality.
No need to be snarky. One huge stride that I see in David's reply is that he is considering alternatives to the mainstream model because he realized that the model is not benefitting the people it should benefit.
Check Dian Fay's comment. Worker owned cooperatives.
Yup. I think that is a valid way to go. There is too much exploitation in the VC ecosystem overall. I'm mostly just upset it took me so long to come around to that conclusion.
Think of the time it took the world to realize the Earth was not flat ;) We're in the middle of a revolution and it takes time to take the veil off old structures of exploitation.
Imagine the time it will take for us to realize the ancient Egyptians were really smart, built structures we can't understand, and probably didn't think the earth was flat... but I digress.
/End ancient civs were NOT dumb rant
Definitely, and there is lots of knowledge that is lost today because we think in terms of immediate profits for stakeholders.
Regarding the "earth was flat" thing, it is not meant to say that ancient civilizations were dumb, but that some systems of beliefs kept people from accessing a proper understanding of phenomenon, for the sole purpose of keeping them in the dark.
We live in a similar system of belief today (exemplified by the title of the post: "corporate vs start-up?" without offering alternatives, although that was probably not the intention of the OP), and it is keeping us from making the right decisions about technology and society.
The corporate model has brought the planet to its knees and the startup model has contributed to create the orwellian environment that was mentioned in a different post. We need to realize that and propose alternatives that do not socialize only the costs as is the case today.
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