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Jason C. McDonald

Linux doesn't really have the same issue, as it usually installs more than one browser by default, rather than installing one and forcing you to select a different one via it's distros software center.

You must have been using sooooome distro. I've used quite a few, and they always ship with one default.

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Ashley Sheridan

Every distro I've ever used has several available: Firefox/Iceweasel (depending on distro), Eiphany, Konqueror, Lynx, Elinks, Galeon, and some more. Maybe a few of the lesser used distros only have one browser available, but I've never come across on of those distros.

They might only install a single one from their available repository if you pick a quick standard installation, but they're still always available on the install media and via the standard online repositories, which makes them as easy to install as any other piece of software on Linux.

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Jason C. McDonald • Edited

Sure, of course they have several available. That's not my point. The only thing I'm saying is that there is one preinstalled default browser, which is not really functionally different than Microsoft bundling Teams with Office suite.

Arguably, Office suite bundles Microsoft OneNote, but you've likely never heard complaints that was competing unfairly with Evernote. Plenty of people use Microsoft Word and Evernote, and utterly ignore Microsoft Onenote.

The point I'm making is, "it's preinstalled" is not unfair competition, any more than most Linux distros preinstalling some software is. Nothing prevents installing another option, either in that case or in this one.

Slack's complaint is baseless. They're losing business because some customers are fairly deciding Microsoft Teams is the better product, and they're crying foul rather than either figuring out how to improve their product or focusing on their own unique strengths.

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Ashley Sheridan

Ok, I maybe don't ever have only one installed by default, because as a web developer and a Linux nerd, I always go for the custom installations and pick the web development group app list.

However, it is very different from MS bundling MSOffice on a machine, as until recently MS had no app store or central software repository, and the one they have now doesn't have a very large offering. Linux on the other hand has has a software center for many years longer, and it's the way to install software (in-fact it's often quite rare for most users to ever need to install software outside of using a software center).

I'm not saying that users are prevented from installing other software, but if it's made more difficult beyond a certain amount of effort, then people won't do it. That's why it's not a like-for-like comparison to say that Windows bundling MSOffice is the same as Linux installing something by default.

I agree that Slack has no case here, but it's because the barrier to install is virtually nothing, given that Slack requires an Internet connection to work, so there's no problem relying on that connection for installation, unlike software which doesn't (or shouldn't) require an Internet connection.

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Jason C. McDonald • Edited

Glad you see my core point. :)

I agree that the Linux situation is not quite the same thing. I'd say it's also dissimilar in another way, a way in which one can't even compare Slack v. Teams to the browser wars of yesteryear...Microsoft Office suite is not automatically installed on most machines! You have to install it from a download or the app store, the exact same medium as how you would install Slack. Microsoft Teams does not ship with Windows 10. It's voluntarily installed, either directly, or as a side-effect of another voluntary installation (Microsoft Office suite).

Anyway, we already agree on the central point of all this: Slack's argument is wholly baseless.