It was an exaggeration, but the point is still valid. A software developer who starts out the interview with asking about salary, is about as valuable as sand in the machine ...
And we're back to disagreement. If developers wants to make sure that they won't have to think more about money then they do about code on their new job, that's A-OK in my book. It also doesn't automatically follow that they are only in for the money if they ask about it first.
Or you first want to get the bottom line out of the way, so you can either stop wasting your time with an interview for a company that wants you to think about money issues rather than about code or otherwise get to the interesting part.
I don't apply for apply to jobs advertised without a salary, and I find even then the first question a recruiter asks is "what is your salary expectation?" and later on in the process if all is going well "what's the minimum they need to offer for me to be able to provisionally accept any offer I receive on your behalf".
Doesn't matter how much you believe in the vision if you can't put food on the table, or a roof over your head...more importantly if you can't do these things for your family. Any one in the real world understands that, belief in the vision or not.
And no, other than the two points money is required for above I do not do this job for the money.
I worked for free on Magic for a decade. If you don't agree with me, that's perfectly fine, but don't apply for a job with us unless you do agree ... ;)
Working on your own project for free is a little different to others working on your project for free, especially if it is their main occupation
It was an exaggeration, but the point is still valid. A software developer who starts out the interview with asking about salary, is about as valuable as sand in the machine ...
And we're back to disagreement. If developers wants to make sure that they won't have to think more about money then they do about code on their new job, that's A-OK in my book. It also doesn't automatically follow that they are only in for the money if they ask about it first.
We ask the most important questions first. If the first question is how much money will I be making, it shows the priorities of the individual ...
Or you first want to get the bottom line out of the way, so you can either stop wasting your time with an interview for a company that wants you to think about money issues rather than about code or otherwise get to the interesting part.
I fundamentally disagree, but that's OK, we don't need to agree on everything ...
I don't apply for apply to jobs advertised without a salary, and I find even then the first question a recruiter asks is "what is your salary expectation?" and later on in the process if all is going well "what's the minimum they need to offer for me to be able to provisionally accept any offer I receive on your behalf".
Doesn't matter how much you believe in the vision if you can't put food on the table, or a roof over your head...more importantly if you can't do these things for your family. Any one in the real world understands that, belief in the vision or not.
And no, other than the two points money is required for above I do not do this job for the money.
I worked for free on Magic for a decade. If you don't agree with me, that's perfectly fine, but don't apply for a job with us unless you do agree ... ;)
Don't worry, after reading a few of your articles I wouldn't want to :D
Hehe :D
Mission accomplished ;)