No paywalls, this is just going to be a way to tip authors as you read for folks who have Coil or monetization enabled.
Paywalls are antithetical to how the dev ecosystem works. There could be a different feature on the site which would only work with web monetization but havenβt thought that far out.
Thanks for that. A pit opened in my gut when I thought of that! No slight to the authors on Medium (so many good articles ... it's how I found Dev!), but every time I get redirected to Medium, I immediately back out and forget the article ever existed.
You are not that far off though Kelvin. It seems at the moment that monetization on posts where the author hasnβt set up their payment pointer (which isn't possible now, and might not be of interest to all authors, or even possible for them), would go to DEV.TO by default.
This is one of the reason why authors left Medium; the platform was making money out of their content in egregious ways. Then again, nobody ever forced authors to publish on Medium or DEV.TO. I believe this is not going to look good if this is the default, as opposed to be opt-in. Maybe it's the case already? It needs to be a choice authors make; this would also show that they are fully aware monetization is going on, as opposed to assuming they are aware and are OK with it...
There is no perfect static terms of service agreement or user experience expectation. As an open source project, every change into this project will be available for scrutiny and discussion.
And as we roll out monetization while simultaneously expanding our generalized open source initiative, different communities built on the platform (thismmalife.com/ etc.) will also be able to implement the monetization system.
Of course, none of this matters if there is not adoption of the technology, so we'll most certainly be working with Coil, GFTW, and everyone involved in whatever ways we can be most helpful.
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Agreed. It would be great to have an easy procedure for the authors that are interested though. I'm personally not sure about Coil, for instance, just like crypto wallets. Lots out there, but the real basic info seems buried unless your "in the know" to some degree. Not necessarily purposefully, but as we all know to some degree, there's a lot of assumed knowledge. I mentioned the wallets as a case in point because I'm learning Blockchain development, so at least for testing, I will shortly need one. Rabbit holes full of starry eyes, but not enough concrete info to make such an important decision on. Very frustrating and unencouraging. I keep prodding from stubborn tenacity, but damn!
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No paywalls, this is just going to be a way to tip authors as you read for folks who have Coil or monetization enabled.
Paywalls are antithetical to how the dev ecosystem works. There could be a different feature on the site which would only work with web monetization but havenβt thought that far out.
Thanks for that. A pit opened in my gut when I thought of that! No slight to the authors on Medium (so many good articles ... it's how I found Dev!), but every time I get redirected to Medium, I immediately back out and forget the article ever existed.
Good to know we're not following that! Joy!
Are you thinking of something like Brave?
You are not that far off though Kelvin. It seems at the moment that monetization on posts where the author hasnβt set up their payment pointer (which isn't possible now, and might not be of interest to all authors, or even possible for them), would go to DEV.TO by default.
This is one of the reason why authors left Medium; the platform was making money out of their content in egregious ways. Then again, nobody ever forced authors to publish on Medium or DEV.TO. I believe this is not going to look good if this is the default, as opposed to be opt-in. Maybe it's the case already? It needs to be a choice authors make; this would also show that they are fully aware monetization is going on, as opposed to assuming they are aware and are OK with it...
I think you'll find that we'll be thoughtful and transparent about anything we do. We've written about some of this in the past.
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There is no perfect static terms of service agreement or user experience expectation. As an open source project, every change into this project will be available for scrutiny and discussion.
And as we roll out monetization while simultaneously expanding our generalized open source initiative, different communities built on the platform (thismmalife.com/ etc.) will also be able to implement the monetization system.
Of course, none of this matters if there is not adoption of the technology, so we'll most certainly be working with Coil, GFTW, and everyone involved in whatever ways we can be most helpful.
Hello all, and 100% of post + 20% bonus when Coil is activated?
Agreed. It would be great to have an easy procedure for the authors that are interested though. I'm personally not sure about Coil, for instance, just like crypto wallets. Lots out there, but the real basic info seems buried unless your "in the know" to some degree. Not necessarily purposefully, but as we all know to some degree, there's a lot of assumed knowledge. I mentioned the wallets as a case in point because I'm learning Blockchain development, so at least for testing, I will shortly need one. Rabbit holes full of starry eyes, but not enough concrete info to make such an important decision on. Very frustrating and unencouraging. I keep prodding from stubborn tenacity, but damn!