Just playing a "what-if" game.
Do you think if Dev tweaked its content publishing model it might bring folks back in droves to Dev.to?
This is my personal opinion but as Dev audience has grown, the quality of posts have worsened, if Dev were just to extend headings to be the length of twitter posts with body articles being optional and more inline chat, could you imagine that?
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Very well exaplined! Love it! Congrats! :D
But isn't it...? Just in more longform? 😛
lol
I think it's an interesting idea and appreciate ya putting it forth!
I wouldn't want us to give up the option for long form content that's for sure and if we were to offer some sort of short form, tweet-style posts, I'd like them be siphoned into their own area — maybe a separate feed?
The selfish side of me thinks oh jeez, I don't wanna moderate tweets, haha but as far as for the health of Forem (making it more capable and extendable to other use-cases, meaning communities outside of DEV) and our ability to cater to different folks' desired experiences right here on DEV, I really think it's a cool idea!
I don't really know what effect it would have on bringing folks back to the platform, but it would be a fresh new offering that might interest some folks enough to pull them back into our orbit.
Anywho, thanks for sharing the thought! I think there's more potential here than many have given credit if we were to take a nuanced approach. To be clear, I'm not saying we're headed this way, but it's interesting!
Better articulated I think that my posting lol.
I wonder if splitting content between short and long-form content would improve engagement.
When I think of DEV, I think of a site where you can find posts about interesting (programming-related) topics or tutorials. I would hardly regard it as a social media site, and I think that would be out of scope.
No I prefer it to be posts. And not become a personality program of bots posting and automated regurgitated posts that saturate tech twitter. I like this being a writers platform as that is the hobby I enjoy.
The tip that I would recommend, is to find 1 or more Discord communities that are relative to you dev stack.
I think DEV is much better than Twitter, hopefully they won't
We have been discussing DEV challenges before in posts like Stop rewarding quantity!.
DEV is not Twitter, DEV is not medium, and DEV is not StackOverflow:
I am quite happy that, driven by the ridiculous actions of the new owner who seems to act in a seemingly irrational way much like Donald Trump did as a president, Twitter seemed to reach a tipping point, and we finally have much more reason to leave the platform altogether.
That being said, I "left" facebook so many times before, and it will probably not be the last time that I logged into my Twitter account to post something either. Still I hope that DEV will never become more Twitter-like, as this would not be helpful to the developer community at all.
I wouldn't qualify posts as high or low quality, it's too subjective. I rather view them as means of expression for developers. Well, at least that's my view on this 🤓
As mentioned below, the user base here fluctuates a bit so we haven’t really seen “droves” of people leave the platform.
The quality of posts is subjective to each individual. What you and I may see as pointless and low level knowledge and information may be the key to someone else figuring something out.
Trust me, as a moderator for a couple of the most used tags here on Dev, I see almost all the craziness that gets posted and as moderators we do our best within policy and practice to keep the platform clear of the spam and horribly written articles.
Extending the headlines to Twitter length would make Dev look horrible UI wise for the major, and honestly it wouldn’t really fit the platform. As mentioned in other comments, if that were to happen, I probably wouldn’t stick around much after that. It would be horrible to look at and dig through for good content.
I will also add as a moderator that if your “article” doesn’t have any body at all, I personally downvote it and put some heavy weight to keep it from the main feed of others. Certain posts that do this get leniency depending on what the reasoning is, but for the most part if you can’t bother to share an opinion in the title, it’s not worth anyone else’s time. Just my opinion on the matter.
I've noticed many posts are often for testing purposes, though, like "test 123", "testing article".
To be perfectly honest: No. For a few reasons (careful: Opinion ahead!):
Do you think if Dev tweaked its content publishing model it might bring folks back in droves to Dev.to?
-> Bring back implies that lots and lots of people left. Is this true? Can you verify this statement? And call me old fashioned, but I personally really like this forum-feed like design, where everything revolves more around the content and less around the comments. There are plenty of platforms with lots of content which basically deliver no value, I love dev.to for being excatly the opposite.
This is my personal opinion but as Dev audience has grown, the quality of posts have worsened
-> Perhaps, but dev to me is an open platform where people learn. When new people join, their writing quality might not be as good as of veterans, but even from these articles I learn basic things I never paid attention to. To me, the variety, even in quality, does more good than bad.
if Dev were just to extend headings to be the length of twitter posts with body articles being optional and more inline chat, could you imagine that?
-> If this was the case, I'd probably quit & look for an alternative platform. I like concepts like the dev.to codes thread, it's just not my primary reason to keep coming back.
I mean the danger is always there. I think that any platform that has too many users and worse strive to have more users for the sake of improving vanity metrics likeTwitter is going to shit like Twitter because they behave the same than Twitter.
Are we there for dev? I don't think so.
The simplest problem that dev has its that by default its feed algorithm isn't great.
The good news is that by following the tips below you can significantly improve that experience
How to make the most of DEV if you’re over Twitter
Ben Halpern for The DEV Team ・ Nov 2 ・ 3 min read
I think we have seen in all social networks that grow to a global large audience (millions of users) that there WILL BE accounts that publish toxic or illegal content or start campaigns to manipulate political debates, elections etc.
The problem is, that to my current knowledge the countermeasures have trade-offs:
Manual review
Automatic review
I have no solution but I see this as an issue that rises in any social network, once it's large enough.
On dev.to I already flagged many users / articles that were obviously spam or scam content (mostly tried to sell pharmaceuticals) and I think moderators are already occupied at least partially with such content.
just my 2cents on what I observed the recent years
Broad audiences are good, and Dev's strength is that anyone can do technical writing and get better at it through an informed and engaged community. Filtering and prioritization become more important the bigger it gets.